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Yeah, I’ve slacked. Grad school, new job, family…. you’ve heard it all from other bloggers.
But like any sleeping bear, the blogger who chooses pseudoscience and skepticism as a topic of discussion is occasionally poked. And I’ve been poked by someone posing as an attorney and a judge no less!
When I first started A Hot Cup of Joe, the blog was hosted at blogspot/blogger and, among my first posts, was a critique of Kevin Trudeau’s Natural Cures. That critique is still there, but it also resides here, at ahotcupofjoe.net.
Nevertheless, Google seems to favor its own blog platform over my private domain and the original post still gets lots of search hits. Thus, it still gets its fair share of comments. The most recent comment comes from an anonymous poster who goes by infinito and he attempts to dismiss Trudeau by acknowledging his greed but also suggesting that “big pharma” is the real evil one. Infinito makes little attempt to deal with the issue at hand, which is the pseudoscientific nature of Trudeau’s deceptive claims and the danger these claims present to those who are desparate for health attention and assistance; those who are hopeful and, thus, exploited by Trudeau.
Instead, our anonymous interloper choses to attack me (without any real success) and focuses on my August 2006 dialog with a seventeen year old commenter. Here’s infinito’s comment in full:
Mr Feagan, your a bully and although I am not a fan of Kevin Trudeau the substance of your writing reflects that of a pseudo-intellect, I notice you like that word pseudo. If your goal is to discredit Trudeau it certainly won’t be accomplished by the ramblings of someone who is inexperienced in the art of research and writing, far more probative if your inability for any sort of abstract thought. You did not address the more substantive issues nor undermine his credibility. You quote a lot from Quack Watch, your only regurgitating what some other skeptic has said and it doesn’t take a great deal of intellect to know they have an agenda. While I may agree that he is highly motivated by profit and some of the modalities are suspect, there still is some probative information that resonates with many readers who are not satisfied with our current medical sysmtem. Your treatment of the 17 year old young man is reprehensible, I am 53 and have been both a prosecutor and a judge most of my professional life. In addition I am a graduate of Oxford University and a member of Mensa, that doesn’t mean a lot except I know a wanna be intellect who does not know which end is up. You lack basic manners and I am only glad that one of my children have not crossed your path. Most real intellects agree that things are not as black and white as your purport, that is for those that are less evolved intellectually, emotionally and in your case mentally. It doesn’t surprise me your a 40 year old student. You owe the young man you bullied an apology, you are judgmental about people, places and things you really know nothing about. If you want to research me Mr. Feagans than please do, I also graduated from Harvard Law School and wrote for the Law Review, so I have some ability for critical thinking. I had two of my associates read your ramblings and all agree it is nothing more then rambling. To quote my associate “he ought to have his ass kicked for being such a bully to that young man”. I understand that you really believe you posses some measure of intellectual ability Feagan but the truth of the matter is you should stay in school. Bobby
Okay, so infinito isn’t completely anonymous. He’s one of the thousands of “Bobbys” on the internet on the afternoon of Nov. 18, 2008.
At first, I thought maybe Bobby/infinito’s criticism had some merit. I read it first in my email inbox rather than in the context of the original blog post, so I didn’t have the “17 year old young man’s” original comment to look at. And, I remembered going through a brash phase where I was quick at riposte and less so at tolerating and humoring woo-woo’s and nuts (however old they are).
But, the more I thought it over, the more skeptical I began to get. That blog post had over 30 comments. Why focus on a single comment of a 17-year old (who is now 19 at least)? What’s this kid to an alleged 53-year old?
Then I reviewed the 17-year old’s comment. I wasn’t that unfair. Nor should I be expected to be nice. The harshest thing I said to him was, “In the end, your little 17-year old misspelled rant is nothing but the anger of someone whose belief is being challenged by critical thought.” I joined the U.S. Army when I was 17. If he can’t handle that then what’s he going to do when he’s cut off by a driver on the freeway on his way to school? How about when his girlfriend/boyfriend dumps him? There are truly worse offenses than a middle-aged grad student questioning his spelling and accusing him of being angry!
But the comment that infinito made that should have started the bells ringing: “…I am 53 and have been both a prosecutor and a judge most of my professional life. In addition I am a graduate of Oxford University and a member of Mensa…”
Right. Either infinito is lying or he’s telling the truth. If its the former, then infinito *is* the 17-year old anonymous poster from 2006 -now a 19-year old. Each of the “facts” he reveals about himself above serve, then, to create a fictive dominance over me: older, more important, better school, wiser, etc. The choice of 53 appears random, but I recall reading somewhere that people often unconsciously choose odd numbers over even when they want ‘random.’ In his mind: ten years my senior gives our 19-year old friend’s ego some sort of dominance. Alleging to be a “prosecutor” reflects the aggression he feels. Claiming to be a judge positions his ego to be in a justified position of fictive righteousness. Claiming to have a “professional life” reinforces the need he feels to be right rather than angry as I accused him 2 years ago. Claiming to be a graduate of Oxford University is a gambit since (probably not knowing which university I attend now) it probably isn’t as elite as the elite-of-elites. And claiming to be a member of Mensa…. well… Sometimes a cigar isn’t a cigar at all.
Of course, its possible that infinito really is a 53-year old Oxford alumni, former prosecutor and judge with Mensa-pains but, if so, then his case is truly sadder than the one I outlined above.
I mean, I wrote this because I was bored, realized I hadn’t posted in a while, and was thouroghly amused by infinito -the “old judge!” But what would motivate him to write a paragraph that large on a post that was two years old, in response to a comment just as old, on a blog that’s moved twice in the last two years?
Instead of masturbating your ego, infinito/bobby, why don’t you try actually engaging in some intellectual discourse on the subject at hand: Kevin Trudeau and the pseudoscientific nonsense he peddles as “natural cures?” Assuming you aren’t actually the original anonymous coward, why hide behind some pretense of affrontment and debate the real issues: the efficacy of so-called complimentary and alternative medicines.
Here’s a challenge for you: use your blogger ID and create a blog that positions your arguments and I’ll debate you. Lets drop the ad hominem and straw man issues between us and deal with the claims head-on. You were pissed at me 2 years ago and keep seeing the same post come up again and again in Google. I get that. So do something about it that’s constructive rather than pretending to be someone your not.






