I recently blogged about the Serpent Mound after a visit to the Ohio archaeological site, sharing a few of the photos I took while there. Today, I get a comment that explores the “alternative” explanations for the mound (as well as other ancient sites). My first instinct was to simply delete the rather lengthy comment that started off in the first sentence talking about “energy,” but I realized that this sort of nonsense needs rebuttal -there are too many impressionable kids and less-informed but curious fans of archaeology out there that will ultimately stumble on to my misinformed guest’s website. So better to tackle it head-on.
I also invite any other readers of this blog or the Skeptic’s Circle to comment in response. But without further ado, let me introduce Miroslav Provod:
Serpent mound is a clay mound that is shaped in meandering curves, which form more energy in their inner bents due to the increased density of zones. The condition for it’s functioning is the same as with other megalithic structures it must be placed into a location with enough cosmic energy (details can be found at http://www.miroslavprovod.com There were many serpent mounds built, but a mound that looks like a snake that is trying to swallow an egg seems to be the most perfect one. It is a mound with four different energetic degrees:
– six locations of a meandering shape of the same energetic value (half of a winding)
– one location of greater energy in the shape of an egg (one whole winding)
– one location of even greater energy in a triangular winding
– and one last location of a different degree of energy in the tail part, which is formed by the combination of the meander with the spiral
There is just so much wrong with this.
The only energies in the mound that can be empirically shown to exist are infrared energy, absorbed from the sun, and the energies involved in chemical and molecular bonding. Each of these energies are well-understood and present in all rocks and earth. There isn’t any special energy, as yet undefined, that has been shown to exist in mounds. In this paragraph, Provod wrote several pseudoscientific and nonsense terms and phrases. For instance, what does “energetic degree” mean? Energy is something that can be empirically measured and simply refers to the ability to do work. There isn’t anything mystical about that. Provod implies that the shape of the mound affects the mound’s energy, but this simply isn’t the case. The only useful energy in the Serpent mound (or any other mound or megalithic structure) is infrared, which is absorbed during the day and emanated during the night.
For all its useful purpose, the energy given off by the serpent mound is no different than the energy given off by any other hill, rock or field in the area. To state differently is to make baseless, wild, and pseudoscientific claims that cannot be empirically supported.
The energetic function of the mounds could be proved by an easy experiment, during which the energy would be measured by a method, which is described in detail in my article “Dowsing versus aura”. To perform this experiment, we need about 10 metres long hose with water flowing in it and any rock of about 60 Kg mass.
There’s no need or reason to “prove” the “energetic function of the mounds.” This is something that is well-understood in geology, physics, and meteorology. The sun’s radiation is absorbed during the day and emanated at night. The effect can be responsible for various weather related phenomena such as fog, dew, or even wind. There’s no mystery. It has little or nothing to do with the shape or size of the mound, though hills in general can act to funnel air currents. The Serpent Mound (along with most man-made mounds) is far too small to have any noticeable effect on air currents beyond the immediate vicinity of the mound itself.
It could be concluded from these experiments that the clay mounds of a serpent shape gave people an energetic place to increase their energy in the same way as menhirs, dolmens and other prehistoric structures.
This is a completely nonsensical, non-scientific, and uneducated statement. There is no scientific basis to make such claims. Indeed, “an energetic place to increase their energy” means nothing to someone that isn’t plugging in an iPod to a USB port. The Hopewell, Adena and other early inhabitants may have held lines of thinking that support these “energy” claims, but these were based on superstition and myth, not empirical knowledge.
IT’S NECESSARY to remind — and I emphasize this — that at the times of constructions of the megalithic structures, the grid of energetic parts wasn’t affected by the civilization sources.
Again, this is a statement that makes no logical or rational sense. “[T]he grid of energetic parts wasn’t affected by civilization sources” means nothing. It is a phrase that holds no value, particularly with regard to first century or earlier civilizations. It certainly hasn’t enough value to be emphatically reminded since this implies that the notion had value to begin with. You may need to restate this in some way that elucidates your thoughts more clearly.
The burial-ground of the rulers of Egypt “The kings’ valley” is situated in a meander of river Nile. There are hundreds of thousands of megalithic structures in the world that are built in the inner bends of water streams, meanders and confluence of rivers.
To demonstrate the pseudoscientific thinking involved with making statements like this, I feel it’s necessary -and I emphasize this- to point out two things: 1) the meandering nature of rivers and streams changes, often within single generations. So sites that are presently situated at the bend in a river may not have been 4,000 years ago. Or they may have been 4,000 years ago but not presently; 3) monumental architecture is most evident in agricultural societies (they had the social/political/economic capitals to build). Such societies nearly always built near rivers and streams because, guess what? That’s where the fertile land was for farming!
There are also a great number of megalithic and religious structures built above the underground springs.
There are also a great number of them that are not.
The curvature of any matter works in the same way as a curve of a water flow, but only given that the matter has enough energy.
Again, this is a nonsensical statement. The type of “energy” isn’t defined. Is is molecular? Chemical? Infrared? Moreover, water *is* matter, so therefore the first part of the sentence defeats itself. In addition, what does it mean to say “works the same?” The angle of the curve is the same. The laws of physics each obeys is the same. etc.
In Malta in the Mediterranean and in other places, there were ritual meeting places for people built in an ellipsoidal shape, partly submerged underground. Domes, vaults, apses, circular structures and other rounded structures have the same qualities that strengthen the energy. Some nations, for example the Celts, constructed clay mounds of squared or rectangular ground plan, where the zones were also dense, but in a different grid.
Again, this are nonsensical statements. “[S]trengthen the energy” doesn’t seem to make sense in the context it’s presented. One cannot “strengthen” energy except to add additional energy, i.e. increasing voltage, focusing the sun’s rays on with a mirror, reducing the amount of resistance on a variable resistor to turn the heat up on an oven, etc. The shapes of buildings can “strengthen energy” in this way by making infrared radiation emanated from the ground or a hearth more efficiently used. But I suspect this isn’t the context you had in mind.
People used to supply their body energy by the use of all kinds of megalithic structures.
This is true in the hearth context I mentioned, but nonsense in the context you’re implying. One can benefit from infrared energy by sleeping over the buried coals or near the heated rocks of a hearth. That’s about it, bub.
However, this is just a first finding, which could be compared to a snowball, which eventually grows into an avalanche.
Doubtful. Sorry, but your premises about the nature of “energy” and megaliths are neither sound nor cogent.
It is described in technical literature, how some rocks of various chemical compositions were exactingly transported (pyramids, Stonehenge, Machu Picu and others) in order to achieve proper combinations.
Again, this statement makes no sense. What “technical literature” do you refer to. I suppose it’s true that the sarsens and lintels of Stonehenge were of “various chemical compositions” like diorite, rhyolite, tuff, etc. It’s also true that they were “exactingly transported. But the statement breaks down when you add, “in order to acheive proper combinations.” There is nothing mystical about the combination of the rocks used in the sites you mention. Each of the quarries are known (though there is some very minor disagreement about the origin of Stonehenge’s bluestones) and there exist very plausible and sensible hypotheses as to the functions of each of these sites that are independent of the non-existent “energies” you allude to.
It’s necessary to clarify their interactions and explain the chemical processes of the rocks, which affected the energy.
This is completely pseudoscientific. Inclusion of words like “chemical,” “process,” “interaction,” and “energy” doesn’t automatically imply that you have a good grasp of physics or science in general. You must first use these words in contexts that make sense. Stating that there are “chemical processes” that must be “explained” to understand how builders of monumental architecture achieved the “combinations” that they did is truly not necessary. There is no correlation that has been established to exist nor have the “chemical processes” themselves been defined. We certainly cannot effectively discuss how “energy” is “affected” since, once again, the “energy” also isn’t defined (infrared, molecular, etc.).
Therefore, it’s not only about supplying bodily energy but also about the quality of the energy and it’s transformation onto the cellular membranes in an optimal amount.
Please, feel free to define “bodily energy.” The closest analog in reality that I can come up with is infrared (a.k.a. heat). But how is the quality of heat important to monumental architecture like the Serpent Mound or Stonehenge? What “cellular membranes” is this heat being transferred to? One assumes humans, but depending upon the Serpent Mound or Stonehenge for warmth is inefficient to say the least. It would be a much better use of energy (a.k.a. work) to build a hearth and a subsequent fire.
If we want to continue in uncovering the secrets of ancient past, we must begin with the fact that we can’t bluff ourselves with explanations of the megalithic cultures, which are not logical.
What non-“logical” explanations are being presented other than your own. The explanations suggested for the Serpent Mound are not only plausible but, given the evidence, it is probable that one (or more) are accurate. The site was probably ritual and funerary in use. There’s no evidence that iPods were being charged. There’s even less evidence that humans were getting warmth (or any other energy) from it.
And we must also respect the fact that we have something to do with a civilisation whose technical maturity we don’t understand yet.
On the contrary, we have a very good understanding of the technical maturity of the Hopewell and Adena cultures. They achieved rudimentary ceramic skills. They built thatched homes. They had rudimentary agricultural skills. And so on. All of this survives very well in the archaeological record.
Also, I think it may be favourable to find out, why was this force of nature that goes through history in the religious structures until our age concealed and who wanted it to be concealed.
What do you mean concealed? The Serpent mound wasn’t concealed. Nor was Stonehenge, Nabta Playa, the Maya ruins, etc. Vegetation may have grown over some of them, but there was no intelligent agent at work with goal to “conceal” them.
One of the reasons I’m so sure that Provod simply copy/pasted the text of his “comment” is that he bothered to leave the comment at all, particularly with such a tone of confidence and assurance that his opinion is informed and rational. Mr. Provod, I’m sorry but, while your comments are welcome, this one was neither informed nor rational.
The energy he won’t define is clearly orgone! The serpent’s shape is functioning as a megalithic accumulator! 🙂 (Skeptics may prefer the take here…)
Oh, Thanks! Really interesting. Greets.
Hmmm, Reich was (beside Orgone) an important psychoanalist and left-wing independent and anti-authoritarian intellectual. You don’t have to believe in Orgon to respect Reich: he was already known for other much more interesting stuff in the field of psychology and political thought, and AFAIK he used to be Freud’s favorite disciple (Jung is more famous maybe but he and his theories were not the like of Freud).
I just hate seeing Reich reduced to a poorly based venomous criticism like that at Sekpdic. Even Wikipedia begins with the sentence “Reich was a respected psychoanalist for much of his life”. The whole Skepdic article is plainly outrageous, whatever one’s opinions on Orgone: Reich was not just “an immigrant” he was a very respected Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany, much like Einstein.
Reich was persecuted in the USA inside the context of McCarthysm. Orgone theory was of course the perfect pretext to get that red Austrian psychoanalist out of the streets.
On the subject: I hold no particular belief on “mound energy” and I normally tend to be skeptic towards things like this. What I have read here doesn’t impress me really either. But anyhow I often notice that “official skeptics” tend to accumulate their reasonings on the point of lesser resistence, where they can accumulate their sarcasm more easily. Hence “energy” or “orgone”, which seem pointless on light of all known data.
But what can these skeptics say about electromagnetism, for instance? Electromagnetism is a well known type of energy that permeates the Universe (or at least the solar system, as well as Earth) and its effects are often ill understood (and most living beings seem to react to it in subtle and even less understood ways). Sometimes I wonder if some mysterious phenomena could be explained scientifically this way, at least partly. I don’t think self-proclaimed “skeptics” are researching this in any way, are they?
To conclude, I want to say that I am somehwat skeptic about the seriousness and emotional stability of some “skeptics”, sincerely: they seem to be as egomaniac as they denounce others to be. Forced rationalization of such skepticism is no better than the forced rationalization of orgone Reich (a very rational man in fact, for the most part at least) fell into. People should be more cautious. Reich actually discussed with Einstein about orgone and Einstein paid him some attention for a while before dismissing the whole issue – this (well known) epysode is not even mentioned in the Skepdic entry, why? Because it’s not a serious article, written disappasionately, but an emotional diatribe that only intends to disqualify, not to inform.
Which is, indeed, why I gave both links. I think it’s reasonably fair to say that Reich finished up as a crazy man, but when he crossed the line is another matter and I understand his stuff on child psychology was still in use until quite recently.
None of which is what brought me back to this thread, which is merely to note that the serpent mound believers have apparently now reached Greece (though any article which cites the head of a Center of Geomancy as an authority may not need any debunking…)
By the way, did you know the Serpent Mound is an old impact site?
See Hansen 1994 in an Ohio Geological Survey paper
Return to sunken mountain: the serpent mound cryptoexplosion structure
I have a pdf copy of it.