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		<title>By: J. Long</title>
		<link>http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/01/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-4670</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is in comment to Les&#039;s statment...As he states they will not be given benefits on any contributions made while using a fake socials, but only those that we&#039;re paid in after they were legal...  What the heck!! How in the world did we allow them citizenship after they broke the law by using a fake social security???  The only benefit we should have given them was a free ride back to where they came from!  The older I get the more upset I get about this whole social security thing.  All I want is for all these immigrants to go back where they came from.  I wish them no harm or suffering and I will even pray for them. They are welcome to visit and spend money in our country as a traveler as many of us do when we travel to their country.  Because they live so many families to a dwelling they can afford to take lower paying jobs, of which at one time were not low paying until companies saw opportunity to make more profits by hiring these people that would take the low pay and at the same time fulfilling quotas to meet discrimination requirements.  I am not saying America didn&#039;t need to lower their standard of living but so many have worked so hard for so long and are now being replaced/discriminated against because an immigrant will work for less pay and on and on.  
Do we go to their countries and behave with such self righteousness?  All I know is we need to take our country back and start getting ourselves back on track, dealing with OUR OWN self righteous people who are abusing our broken systems, not laying down the red carpet for foreigners and adding huge issues to our problems.  Lord knows the camels back is so breaking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in comment to Les&#8217;s statment&#8230;As he states they will not be given benefits on any contributions made while using a fake socials, but only those that we&#8217;re paid in after they were legal&#8230;  What the heck!! How in the world did we allow them citizenship after they broke the law by using a fake social security???  The only benefit we should have given them was a free ride back to where they came from!  The older I get the more upset I get about this whole social security thing.  All I want is for all these immigrants to go back where they came from.  I wish them no harm or suffering and I will even pray for them. They are welcome to visit and spend money in our country as a traveler as many of us do when we travel to their country.  Because they live so many families to a dwelling they can afford to take lower paying jobs, of which at one time were not low paying until companies saw opportunity to make more profits by hiring these people that would take the low pay and at the same time fulfilling quotas to meet discrimination requirements.  I am not saying America didn&#8217;t need to lower their standard of living but so many have worked so hard for so long and are now being replaced/discriminated against because an immigrant will work for less pay and on and on.<br />
Do we go to their countries and behave with such self righteousness?  All I know is we need to take our country back and start getting ourselves back on track, dealing with OUR OWN self righteous people who are abusing our broken systems, not laying down the red carpet for foreigners and adding huge issues to our problems.  Lord knows the camels back is so breaking!</p>
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		<title>By: cfeagans</title>
		<link>http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/01/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-4591</link>
		<dc:creator>cfeagans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 03:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see a lot of rhetoric in your comment but little facts or evidence. Beck is a hate-mongering idiot and I feel sympathy and pity for those duped by his nonsense. See my post on &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/08/the-pseudoarchaeology-of-glenn-beck/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Pseudoarchaeology of Glenn Beck&lt;/a&gt;&quot; for a debunking of this nut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot of rhetoric in your comment but little facts or evidence. Beck is a hate-mongering idiot and I feel sympathy and pity for those duped by his nonsense. See my post on &#8220;<a href="http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/08/the-pseudoarchaeology-of-glenn-beck/" rel="nofollow">The Pseudoarchaeology of Glenn Beck</a>&#8221; for a debunking of this nut.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Renick</title>
		<link>http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/01/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-4590</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Renick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO:cfeagans
How can someone be teaching with such ignorance of what is happening to our country. You are part of the problem. Beck at least backs up his statements with facts. You only give rhetoric and it is obvious you are not doing your research. So who is drinking the kool- aid? Apparently you belong to the Socialist movement that is destroying our country. You need to do your homework!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO:cfeagans<br />
How can someone be teaching with such ignorance of what is happening to our country. You are part of the problem. Beck at least backs up his statements with facts. You only give rhetoric and it is obvious you are not doing your research. So who is drinking the kool- aid? Apparently you belong to the Socialist movement that is destroying our country. You need to do your homework!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Victor R. Clemo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor R. Clemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 05:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these comments just don&#039;t make sense.  Am I wrong.  Only citizens of the United States is entitled to Social Security.  Pay back is based on what has been paid in by the person.  If you are not a citizen you don&#039;t particapte.  That it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these comments just don&#8217;t make sense.  Am I wrong.  Only citizens of the United States is entitled to Social Security.  Pay back is based on what has been paid in by the person.  If you are not a citizen you don&#8217;t particapte.  That it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Fisher</title>
		<link>http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/01/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-4486</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know that they do not need legality to get social security from us. Now I do not know whether that treaty that Bush drafted went through or not but if it did we are paying the Mexican government $345 billion in social security to pay legally and illegally. I do not know whether it has gone throw or not. We have the same agreement with Canada and who knows what other countries. So do they get SS whether they compete units or not while we do not get it if we do not have enough units?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that they do not need legality to get social security from us. Now I do not know whether that treaty that Bush drafted went through or not but if it did we are paying the Mexican government $345 billion in social security to pay legally and illegally. I do not know whether it has gone throw or not. We have the same agreement with Canada and who knows what other countries. So do they get SS whether they compete units or not while we do not get it if we do not have enough units?</p>
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		<title>By: Les Waggoner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Waggoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the goal is to pave a way for illegal aliens to obtain legality.

Yes, they will be eligible for Social Security based on the SS taxes that they have contributed after they have established legality. &lt;b&gt;They will not, however, have access to any benefits that were paid in while using false Social Security account numbers while their status was not legal.&lt;/b&gt;

The money paid by undocumented immigrants (more than $6 billion per year) is channeled into the Earnings Suspense File, which holds payments made by people using false identities or incorrect Social Security numbers. 

Read more: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ehow.com/facts_4795583_illegal-aliens-social-security-benefits.html#ixzz0yQdBwVBd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;About Illegal Aliens &amp; Social Security Benefits &#124; eHow.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the goal is to pave a way for illegal aliens to obtain legality.</p>
<p>Yes, they will be eligible for Social Security based on the SS taxes that they have contributed after they have established legality. <b>They will not, however, have access to any benefits that were paid in while using false Social Security account numbers while their status was not legal.</b></p>
<p>The money paid by undocumented immigrants (more than $6 billion per year) is channeled into the Earnings Suspense File, which holds payments made by people using false identities or incorrect Social Security numbers. </p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.ehow.com/facts_4795583_illegal-aliens-social-security-benefits.html#ixzz0yQdBwVBd" rel="nofollow">About Illegal Aliens &amp; Social Security Benefits | eHow.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
		<link>http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/01/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-2916</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 13:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got this same e-mail from my brother in law.  This post ranks highly when you plug &quot;social security benefits illegals&quot; into Google, so you&#039;re performing a public service here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got this same e-mail from my brother in law.  This post ranks highly when you plug &#8220;social security benefits illegals&#8221; into Google, so you&#8217;re performing a public service here.</p>
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		<title>By: BBARTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBARTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 16:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still fail to understand why a bill is needed to grant legalized citizens SS benefits. It is time we started to take care of all the legalized citizens and send the illegals back to there own country, where ever that might be. I do not see any other country pampering individuals that enter their country illegally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still fail to understand why a bill is needed to grant legalized citizens SS benefits. It is time we started to take care of all the legalized citizens and send the illegals back to there own country, where ever that might be. I do not see any other country pampering individuals that enter their country illegally.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Rehberg: Fighting Imaginary Battles for You!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Rehberg: Fighting Imaginary Battles for You!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 17:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] receiving Social Security benefits now and coming to the United States to receive them. Itâ€™s just not true. Federal law is actually quite clear about this, as FactCheck notes: Weâ€™ll just quickly note that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] receiving Social Security benefits now and coming to the United States to receive them. Itâ€™s just not true. Federal law is actually quite clear about this, as FactCheck notes: Weâ€™ll just quickly note that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cfeagans</title>
		<link>http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2010/01/social-security-for-illegal-immigrants/comment-page-1/#comment-2597</link>
		<dc:creator>cfeagans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, folks, is a prime example of the sort of citizen that is tuned in to the Glen Becks and Limbaughs of the world and tuned out to reality.

No one is suggesting that people who don&#039;t pay into Social Security will start collecting it. The bill in question says nothing about &quot;amnesty for aliens.&quot; You really have to be pretty ignorant not to understand that this is about SSI Benefits for naturalized citizens who have paid into the system. That&#039;s it. 

Guys, stop letting nuts like Beck and Limbaugh do your thinking for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, folks, is a prime example of the sort of citizen that is tuned in to the Glen Becks and Limbaughs of the world and tuned out to reality.</p>
<p>No one is suggesting that people who don&#8217;t pay into Social Security will start collecting it. The bill in question says nothing about &#8220;amnesty for aliens.&#8221; You really have to be pretty ignorant not to understand that this is about SSI Benefits for naturalized citizens who have paid into the system. That&#8217;s it. </p>
<p>Guys, stop letting nuts like Beck and Limbaugh do your thinking for you.</p>
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