Comments on: Review: Kevin Trudeau’s Natural Cures, Part 2 http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/11/review-kevin-trudeaus-natural-cures-part-2/ Archaeology, anthropology, science, and skepticism Sat, 05 May 2012 01:00:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mar Michael Abportus http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/11/review-kevin-trudeaus-natural-cures-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-128 Mar Michael Abportus Wed, 19 Sep 2007 05:32:00 +0000 http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/review-kevin-trudeaus-natural-cures-part-2/#comment-128 Comparing private health care to public, in the United Kindgom, the average person diagnosed with cancer takes six months to start treatment. In the US, with private care, the average person takes two weeks to start treatment after diagnosisl<br/><br/>M. J Thannisch Comparing private health care to public, in the United Kindgom, the average person diagnosed with cancer takes six months to start treatment. In the US, with private care, the average person takes two weeks to start treatment after diagnosisl

M. J Thannisch

]]> By: Prup (aka Jim Benton) http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/11/review-kevin-trudeaus-natural-cures-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-127 Prup (aka Jim Benton) Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:23:00 +0000 http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/review-kevin-trudeaus-natural-cures-part-2/#comment-127 Has anyone compared longevity stats and infant mortality in countries that use evidence-based medicine but where CAM quackery is prevalent -- such as ours -- to those societies which use EBM and which, for the most part avoid CAM. That might be an interesting one. True there are other factors, including our own private health care system compared to more sensible universal health care systems.<br/><br/>It might also be useful to compare areas of given societies where CAM is prevalent -- usually among religiously strong sectors, to those where it is not, though here the rural/urban split would be hard to correct for. (Cities have greater pockets of poverty, while rural societies are generally poorer overall.)<br/><br/>Just a couple of top of the head thoughts. Has anyone compared longevity stats and infant mortality in countries that use evidence-based medicine but where CAM quackery is prevalent — such as ours — to those societies which use EBM and which, for the most part avoid CAM. That might be an interesting one. True there are other factors, including our own private health care system compared to more sensible universal health care systems.

It might also be useful to compare areas of given societies where CAM is prevalent — usually among religiously strong sectors, to those where it is not, though here the rural/urban split would be hard to correct for. (Cities have greater pockets of poverty, while rural societies are generally poorer overall.)

Just a couple of top of the head thoughts.

]]> By: Clark Bartram http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/11/review-kevin-trudeaus-natural-cures-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-126 Clark Bartram Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:23:00 +0000 http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2006/11/21/review-kevin-trudeaus-natural-cures-part-2/#comment-126 No argument here. I'll add that in addition to there being more people than ever before, a reason why there are more cases of various diseases is that people live considerably longer than ever before. But recent data shows that the diseases of older age, like heart disease, are occuring 10 to 15 years later than they did 50 years ago. <br/><br/>I'm suprised that he didn't throw out the old canard about medical errors being the 3rd leading cause of death in America. I've lost count of how many quacks, particularly chiropractors, use that one as "proof" that what they do is the better way. What they fail to mention is that the study was based on 30 year old data and didn't take into account that most of the patients who died did so as a result of their disease process and not because of the medical error. Medical errors are a problem to be sure, and it is being addressed with the increasing use of technology, but they are not a reason to listen to K-Tru or any other quack. No argument here. I’ll add that in addition to there being more people than ever before, a reason why there are more cases of various diseases is that people live considerably longer than ever before. But recent data shows that the diseases of older age, like heart disease, are occuring 10 to 15 years later than they did 50 years ago.

I’m suprised that he didn’t throw out the old canard about medical errors being the 3rd leading cause of death in America. I’ve lost count of how many quacks, particularly chiropractors, use that one as “proof” that what they do is the better way. What they fail to mention is that the study was based on 30 year old data and didn’t take into account that most of the patients who died did so as a result of their disease process and not because of the medical error. Medical errors are a problem to be sure, and it is being addressed with the increasing use of technology, but they are not a reason to listen to K-Tru or any other quack.

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