Comments on: The Pseudoscience of an “Infomercial” Conman http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/01/the-pseudoscience-of-an-infomercial-conman/ Archaeology, anthropology, science, and skepticism Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:51:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Anonymous http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/01/the-pseudoscience-of-an-infomercial-conman/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Anonymous Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:09:00 +0000 http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2006/01/26/the-pseudoscience-of-an-infomercial-conman/#comment-4 "And, in answer to the argument that scientists are people and just as susceptible to greed and jealousy as the next man, I submit to you that if this is so, then the first one to write the paper and attach his or her name to the discovery will be immortalized and, perhaps, rich. The drug companies and the government could neither suppress the altruistic scientist nor the greedy one." - FYI, scientists and academics conduct their work from the support of grants; studies that are not able to be captured and distributed in a controlled, profitable manner do not recieve grants for the most part. Also, it is pretty well known among those of us in R&D that to develop a new compound, we look at the effectiveness of natural remedies and to extrapolate the substance into a patentable product. While Mr. Trudeau may or may not be acting altruistically, the bigger picture that you are attacking is not as off base as you would have your reader's believe. The idea that big companies and government couldn't suppress a successful natural alternative is based on what experience? Whether or not you think Mr. Trudeau is bunk, and he very well might be, the bigger idea that low cost, public remedies are suppressed by corporations that rely on quarterly growth is not fantasty; it is a reality that is played out everytime your family member or loved one is placed on some medication to treat a symptom, rather than getting at the root cause through a change in diet and lifestyle. It is not the physician who is the villian in this drama; it is the system that is perpetrated by the pharma companies and goverment, and those institutions that rely on funding from them. “And, in answer to the argument that scientists are people and just as susceptible to greed and jealousy as the next man, I submit to you that if this is so, then the first one to write the paper and attach his or her name to the discovery will be immortalized and, perhaps, rich. The drug companies and the government could neither suppress the altruistic scientist nor the greedy one.” – FYI, scientists and academics conduct their work from the support of grants; studies that are not able to be captured and distributed in a controlled, profitable manner do not recieve grants for the most part. Also, it is pretty well known among those of us in R&D that to develop a new compound, we look at the effectiveness of natural remedies and to extrapolate the substance into a patentable product. While Mr. Trudeau may or may not be acting altruistically, the bigger picture that you are attacking is not as off base as you would have your reader’s believe. The idea that big companies and government couldn’t suppress a successful natural alternative is based on what experience? Whether or not you think Mr. Trudeau is bunk, and he very well might be, the bigger idea that low cost, public remedies are suppressed by corporations that rely on quarterly growth is not fantasty; it is a reality that is played out everytime your family member or loved one is placed on some medication to treat a symptom, rather than getting at the root cause through a change in diet and lifestyle. It is not the physician who is the villian in this drama; it is the system that is perpetrated by the pharma companies and goverment, and those institutions that rely on funding from them.

]]> By: Anonymous http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/01/the-pseudoscience-of-an-infomercial-conman/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Anonymous Sat, 24 Feb 2007 18:13:00 +0000 http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2006/01/26/the-pseudoscience-of-an-infomercial-conman/#comment-3 Hi, this is Anna,<br/>I made another response about how natural cures is nothing new and that Kevin is using that to his advantage. Basically, what I was trying to say,Kevin is right. Even if he is trying to make alot of money or not, the information that he has provided is actually pretty accurate. If you do the research, natural curs do exsist, and the FDA is the largest money making corporation. Is that so hard to believe? What does man fear the most, dieing, sickness, dieing without money for his family, dieing without making something of his life, not being able to accomplish ones goals because of early death or sickness, dieing without ever having reproduced, you get the picture. Alot of people may have found that his cures didn't work because they didn't use them right.<br/>Even conventiional medicine like antibiotics doesn't work if it isn't used right. I use the natural cures for flu and cold, but it's how you use them. I don't just take a combo of herbs and, WALLA, I'm better. I have to prepare them a certain way and take them a certain amount of time throughout the day. Hi, this is Anna,
I made another response about how natural cures is nothing new and that Kevin is using that to his advantage. Basically, what I was trying to say,Kevin is right. Even if he is trying to make alot of money or not, the information that he has provided is actually pretty accurate. If you do the research, natural curs do exsist, and the FDA is the largest money making corporation. Is that so hard to believe? What does man fear the most, dieing, sickness, dieing without money for his family, dieing without making something of his life, not being able to accomplish ones goals because of early death or sickness, dieing without ever having reproduced, you get the picture. Alot of people may have found that his cures didn’t work because they didn’t use them right.
Even conventiional medicine like antibiotics doesn’t work if it isn’t used right. I use the natural cures for flu and cold, but it’s how you use them. I don’t just take a combo of herbs and, WALLA, I’m better. I have to prepare them a certain way and take them a certain amount of time throughout the day.

]]> By: CFeagans http://ahotcupofjoe.net/2006/01/the-pseudoscience-of-an-infomercial-conman/comment-page-1/#comment-2 CFeagans Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:46:00 +0000 http://ahotcupofjoe.wordpress.com/2006/01/26/the-pseudoscience-of-an-infomercial-conman/#comment-2 A recent email from Donna Cowan:<br/><br/><b><i><br/>What a sad shame at the expense of human health, YOU and people like you<br/>promote sickness! You and ALL of the people of your kind excell in<br/>spreading false information!! Why? It's your wallet!! You are stupid, and<br/>greedy! I have NO respect for you or crap people like you and/ or of your<br/>kind!! Kevin Trudeau is so right! Ever braoadcast that Flex oil dissolves<br/>cancer...it's true, so true!! I am proof!!<br/>No you wouldn't dream of broadcasting such a thing because it would put<br/>doctors in the poor house! Cancer among other diseases and ailments would<br/>financially break the doctors! Physicians are NOT doing anything they can<br/>to find the cures for cancer...Per your comment that they are!!! Focus on<br/>finding the cause then the cure would be found!! START at the souce, you<br/>fools ....NO....that would end the many dollars....NO money in finding the<br/>source for you foolish doctors!! Fluoirde in one source of cancer!! STOP<br/>that and many, many health problems would be end!!<br/><br/>Your comment about "I would think their wealth would be even greater if the<br/>cure was not hidden" is utter nonsense!<br/><br/>You SO SUCK!<br/><br/>D.C.</b></i><br/><br/>My Response:<br/><br/>My only goal is to promote critical thought and to encourage people to avoid credulous responses to every wild claim that comes along just because they perceive (rightly or wrongly) that the health industry hasn't answered their concerns.<br/><br/>The health industry (doctors, researchers, pharmaceutical companies, government oversight, etc) have problems. Your time would be better spent educating yourself on the real problems that exist and the possible solutions than simple accepting, at face value, many of the wild claims that are promoted just because they provide and "alternative."<br/><br/>There is only one way to do science. None of the claims you made in your passionate email to me have the science to back them up. Arguing that this is because of some "conspiracy" is simply a non sequitur since it would be a simple matter to publish the methodology and results that can be duplicated on a website if peer-reviewed, scholarly journals refused them.<br/><br/>I advocate only one thing: think. A recent email from Donna Cowan:


What a sad shame at the expense of human health, YOU and people like you
promote sickness! You and ALL of the people of your kind excell in
spreading false information!! Why? It’s your wallet!! You are stupid, and
greedy! I have NO respect for you or crap people like you and/ or of your
kind!! Kevin Trudeau is so right! Ever braoadcast that Flex oil dissolves
cancer…it’s true, so true!! I am proof!!
No you wouldn’t dream of broadcasting such a thing because it would put
doctors in the poor house! Cancer among other diseases and ailments would
financially break the doctors! Physicians are NOT doing anything they can
to find the cures for cancer…Per your comment that they are!!! Focus on
finding the cause then the cure would be found!! START at the souce, you
fools ….NO….that would end the many dollars….NO money in finding the
source for you foolish doctors!! Fluoirde in one source of cancer!! STOP
that and many, many health problems would be end!!

Your comment about “I would think their wealth would be even greater if the
cure was not hidden” is utter nonsense!

You SO SUCK!

D.C.

My Response:

My only goal is to promote critical thought and to encourage people to avoid credulous responses to every wild claim that comes along just because they perceive (rightly or wrongly) that the health industry hasn’t answered their concerns.

The health industry (doctors, researchers, pharmaceutical companies, government oversight, etc) have problems. Your time would be better spent educating yourself on the real problems that exist and the possible solutions than simple accepting, at face value, many of the wild claims that are promoted just because they provide and “alternative.”

There is only one way to do science. None of the claims you made in your passionate email to me have the science to back them up. Arguing that this is because of some “conspiracy” is simply a non sequitur since it would be a simple matter to publish the methodology and results that can be duplicated on a website if peer-reviewed, scholarly journals refused them.

I advocate only one thing: think.

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